And when it became clear to them what He, glorified and exalted is He, is upon in terms of purity from every blemish of deficiency, they described whoever said the opposite as safeguarding their religion and honor by rising above baseness and vile actions by not continuing in falsehood, detesting for the creation in the essence of creation, confirming what is generally true for the listener in believing what he hears and arguing for it. They said: "And indeed, he" - this is according to the reading with a kasrah, and we believe that he - according to the reading with a fathah - "was saying"; meaning a saying that is in its essence a lie, akin to nature and disposition. "Our fool" refers to the genus, so Iblis encompasses the head of the genus in an initial manner, and everyone who follows him from those who do not know Allah, for the fruit of intellect is knowledge, and the fruit of knowledge is the knowledge of Allah. So whoever does not know Him is the one who is associated with folly and misguidance because he has no knowledge at all to carry him to composure, lying and fabricating against Allah; meaning the one who has attributes of perfection that contradict the words of this fool regarding the child. "Excessively" means a saying that is in its distance from the truth, the same distance and exceeding the limit.